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I'd say that accurately describes the two major parties in the current American political environment.
Sounds like a good reason to vote for an obvious conman who's easily twice as corrupt as the establishment politicians. Oh, wait, no it isn't.

There's a growing number of prominent D's like Elizabeth Warren, Kirsten Gillibrand, and Cory Booker who've taken a stand on rejecting corporate PAC donations, so at least they're acknowledging that there's a problem and working to make things better. But I'm sure low-information voters will keep saying "both sides are the same" despite all evidence to the contrary.


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We are approaching the end of capitalism because labor's power is trending towards zero. The struggle that has defined the industrial age is ending, Capital is ascendent. New forms of social organization will need to arise.

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“Technique has penetrated the deepest recesses of the human being. The machine tends not only to create a new human environment, but also to modify man's very essence. The milieu in which he lives is no longer his. He must adapt himself, as though the world were new, to a universe for which he was not created. He was made to go six kilometers an hour, and he goes a thousand. He was made to eat when he was hungry and to sleep when he was sleepy; instead, he obeys a clock. He was made to have contact with living things, and he lives in a world of stone. He was created with a certain essential unity, and he is fragmented by all the forces of the modern world.”
― Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society

“The individual is in a dilemma: either he decides to safeguard his freedom of choice, chooses to use traditional , personal, moral, or empirical means, thereby entering into competition with a power against which there is no efficacious defense and before which he must suffer defeat; or he decides to accept technical necessity, in which case he will himself by the victor, but only by submitting irreparably to technical slavery. In effect he has no freedom of choice.”
― Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society

Modern technology has become a total phenomenon for civilization, the defining force of a new social order in which efficiency is no longer an option but a necessity imposed on all human activity. ― Jacques Ellul

The goal of modern propaganda is no longer to transform opinion but to arouse an active and mythical belief. ―Jacques Ellul

Anarchism can teach Christian thinkers to see the realities of our societies from a different standpoint than the dominant one of the state. What seems to be one of the disasters of our time is that we all appear to agree that the nation-state is the norm. … Whether the state be Marxist or capitalist, it makes no difference. The dominant ideology is that of sovereignty. ―Jacques Ellul, Anarchy and Christianity

Man's power is first of all the result of hardening his heart against God: man affirms that he is strong, conquers the world, and builds cities. ―Jacques Ellul

Urban civilization is warring civilization. ―Jacques Ellul

Journalistic content is a technical complex expressly intended to adapt man to the machine. ―Jacques Ellul

The gospel and the first church were never hostile to women nor treated them as minors. … When Christianity became a power or authority, this worked against women. A strange perversion, yet fully understandable when we allow that women represent precisely the most innovative elements in Christianity: grace, love, charity, a concern for living creatures, nonviolence, an interest in little things, the hope of new beginnings—the very elements that Christianity was setting aside in favor of glory and success. ―Jacques Ellul

It was impossible to keep up the great movement of inner and outer freedom initiated by Jesus. The proclamation “You are free through the Holy Spirit,” and Paul’s statement, “Everything is lawful,” were fine for a small, elite group in which everyone knew everyone else. But when it was a matter of thousands of new converts whose depth of faith could not be known, how could they be told that they were completely free to choose their way of life and decide their own conduct? They had to be incorporated and put under the authority of a head of each group, and the more numerous they became, the more sacred and complex this authority had to be. … The glorious freedom that is in Christ could not be tolerated. It was replaced by clear and strict commandments. ―Jacques Ellul

The biblical view is not just apolitical but antipolitical in the sense that it refuses to confer any value on political power, or in the sense that it regards political power as idolatrous.


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